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Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:21 AM
I am fairly new to the whole build your car up scene. I have a 2003 Sunfire that I just bought a rk sport Streefire body kit for and a wing. Now I am looking to make it as fast as it is going to look. Does anyone have any advice on what I can do to increase my horses until I can afford the Supercharger I am interested in?

Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:11 AM
wing! AAAAH! RICE!!!!



Anyways, try

intake
Bigger throttle body
header
exhaust
intake porting
head porting
50shot of nitrous


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Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:04 AM
Ouch I am not gong the NAS route. I am not looking to fry my engine I am just trying to get a little more umph. I have been told to stay away from NAS by many, many people.
Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:27 AM
Wow a wing that adds like 5 million horsepower.....or so the ricers think.....our main objective here is to smoke the ricers not smoke with them. put the money towards your engine. heck make a sleeper ricers hate sleeper's.
Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:41 AM
NAS -WHAT THE HELL IS THAT????????????????? Carry a copy of that movie around with you that should help!
Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:58 AM
LOL! last week at the track i saw a 1990 escort 4dr auto with a big far aluminum wing on the back. the kid had to be all of 16 years old,oh and it had a big bolt on tip also i was thinking to myself WTF! i was trying to guess what it would run in my head, hummmm maybe 18.2. then he lined up and ran 19.7 he did not run the rest of the night


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Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:21 PM
mike czyz wrote:Wow a wing that adds like 5 million horsepower.....or so the ricers think.....our main objective here is to smoke the ricers not smoke with them. put the money towards your engine. heck make a sleeper ricers hate sleeper's.


Whats rice about a wing, he didnt say he got a 3ft aluminum wing. Some call wings/spoilers all the same. Regardless, i Understand this is page is for the Eco, but not everyone is all about go go go. Some like their car to look good too and call it different things.

Secondly...
its not NAS its nitrous, not NOS or whatever. Nitrous is the stuff you spray, NOS is a brand. Regardless of what people tell you, nitrous is safe to run, if you are not a cheap a$$ and do things properly. Go to the j-body page, Nitro has run bottles and bottles and not had any problems, because he did it the right way. A poorly tuned turbo or supercharger can cause just as much if not more damage than nitrous to an engine.

You friend prolly knows someone who knows someone who blew their engine up sprayin NAWZZ on his otherwise stock 96 Neon or something.



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Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:49 PM
NOS also is an abreviation for Nitrous Oxide Systems. Meaning any of them. And all the rest of you, stop raggin on the kid for building HIS car the was HE wants. Till he straps some @!#$ on your car you dont have any right to complain.



Read, then process the info, think logically, than if you don't have a headache afterwards, post your response
Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:10 PM
im sorry but wings dont even look that great...... i think what comes stock is fine and so do alot of people.
Re: Increasing Horsepower
Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:23 AM
making you engine breathe better is a good place to start. since your thinking about a power adder (super charger) then I would go with:

port and polish the head w/ three angle valve job from a quality shop. valves are critical component so get the best that is within your budget.

maybe go with the 1mm oversize valves to increase the flow in your engine.

as long as your set on on a supercharger instead of a turbo you can go ahead and get a header and make the exhaust at least 2.25 all the way back. this includes the CAT, and muffler. I would also add a 20" or so resonator, this will keep you fast, and cut the noise so Mr. John Q. Law doesn't hassle you.

that will get you the extra umph your looking for and be useful once you get the supercharger. don't buy things that you will have to replace once you get the supercharger. for instance get the cheapest intake you can find that will work, it will be all but useless when it comes time to put the super charger in.





Re: Increasing Horsepower
Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:14 AM
I will have the AEM CAI intake but ill modify it when the changer comes out.


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Re: Increasing Horsepower
Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:57 AM
If you want more umph without spending too much start with the basic. Intake, headers and cat-back exhaust.
Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:14 AM
For everyone having a fit about the wing......It is not a huge wing that sits like 2 feet off the car it sits maybe 2 inches off the car. I was also told that on a Sunfire just out of the factory the throttle cable isn't as tight as it could be. Someone told me that if I tighten the throttle cable my car will respond to the gas peddle better. Is this true about the cable being loose?
Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:56 AM
I have never heard that, but wont do anything you cant do by mashing your foot to the floor.

You have an intake, options to make it breath better are:

Header
New high flow cat
full exhaust 2.25 pipe new muffler
cams
lightened or underdrive pulley
Throttle body




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Re: Increasing Horsepower
Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:36 PM
Have a 03 cavalier Z24(LS) and install a RK sport 4-2-1 headers with a 2.25 cat back exhaust from magnaflow with a AEM cold air intake, that was big improvement on my performance, but the header was a pain in the butt, have to ask a machine shop to make me a angle spacer to keep the header knocking on the floor thatv I install between the top and miidle part off the headers


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Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:43 AM
I also am new to Ecotec power tuning. I have read a few people say that a bigger throttle body will help add power, but in an article I read a few months back, it was stated that the Ecotec throttle body had plenty of flow, enough to handle up to 500 HP.

Additionally, I will be upgrading piece by piece over time, so where should I start? Cat back exhaust, then header then intake and injectors? Also, where can we get the ECU reprogrammed, or are there aftermarket systems we can get WITHOUT requiring a laptop to program?

Any help you all could give would be great, thanks.
Re: Increasing Horsepower
Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:53 AM
for the throttle body handling 500 hp i dont know but start with an intake then do your cat back and exhaust at the same time since they are connected and you can go to jbody performance.com for a reflash but be perpared to pay. anything other than that would be a piggyback system
Re: Increasing Horsepower
Monday, August 15, 2005 6:44 AM
Grizbone wrote:NOS also is an abreviation for Nitrous Oxide Systems. Meaning any of them. And all the rest of you, stop raggin on the kid for building HIS car the was HE wants. Till he straps some @!#$ on your car you dont have any right to complain.


Wrong NOS is a brand. Call it nitrous, juice, spray, n2o, anying but NOS or NAWZ. Anyway, there is nothing wrong with nitrous. I'd pick up a kit, ZEX makes some easy to install wet and dry kits.

BTW, I'm with the rest of the guys here that don't like the wings and body kits. A clean looking cars looks better no matter what.



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