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increased performance with cams?
Friday, July 06, 2007 9:53 AM
Do you really notice any performance increase with cams? I was thinking about going comp cams stage 1 for the ecotec and getting them off of smg probably around christmas, but i want to make sure that i will notice the performance increase? How do cams help the engine perform better?

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Re: increased performance with cams?
Friday, July 06, 2007 6:02 PM
Yes, you will. Camshafts are a very important part in how much air your engine intakes (and the balance of valve overlap and how much exhaust is being pushed out).

But I would suggest having some type of fuel management along with it and a wideband.



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Re: increased performance with cams?
Friday, July 06, 2007 8:51 PM
What types of fuel management are you talking about, and what do you mean by a wide band?

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- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

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Re: increased performance with cams?
Friday, July 06, 2007 11:46 PM
RFOGALX wrote:What types of fuel management are you talking about, and what do you mean by a wide band?


Fuel Management is just that, it manages your fuel consumption for your engine.

A wideband is refering to a wideband unit that has a wideband O2 sensor. You put the O2 sensor in your exhaust system (around the same area as your stock O2 sensor...your b-pipe) and it can read your air to fuel ratio to a exact, so you know how rich or lean you are running.

FYI, your stock O2 sensor is a narrowband O2 sensor.



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Re: increased performance with cams?
Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:02 AM
Any suggestions on what to purchase as fuel management? I plan on going turbo as well, so idk if that makes a difference?

- 2003 CHEVY CAVALIER LS SPORT ECOTEC -

- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

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Re: increased performance with cams?
Saturday, July 07, 2007 9:06 AM
Hows the aem air fuel ratio 02 wideband on smg? Anything special i need to watch, or are they all the same?

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- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

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Re: increased performance with cams?
Saturday, July 07, 2007 1:23 PM
RFOGALX wrote:Hows the aem air fuel ratio 02 wideband on smg? Anything special i need to watch, or are they all the same?


The AEM Eugo works just fine and is a reasonable price.

Off Topic: Why did you copy my signiture?


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Re: increased performance with cams?
Saturday, July 07, 2007 1:29 PM
RFOGALX wrote:Any suggestions on what to purchase as fuel management? I plan on going turbo as well, so idk if that makes a difference?


Look into HP Tuners


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Re: increased performance with cams?
Saturday, July 07, 2007 4:11 PM
What do you mean i copied your signature, i must be doing it without realizing it?

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- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

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Re: increased performance with cams?
Saturday, July 07, 2007 4:14 PM
I think i fixed it, idk how that happened. Sorry.


- 2003 CHEVY CAVALIER LS SPORT ECOTEC -

- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

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Re: increased performance with cams?
Saturday, July 07, 2007 6:25 PM
I think i'll be getting the HPTuners before i get the cams, is that a good idea on my part or should i get the cams then the hp tuners. Right now i only have an exhaust, maybe a header and some mounts. For the future i plan on cams, stage 2 turbo kit since it is intercooled as you recommended, and an intake. Also is there any way i can hurt the car by using hp tuners, like engine damage or will it just run rough until i fix it again with hp tuners?


- 2003 CHEVY CAVALIER LS SPORT ECOTEC -

- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

RIP DAD<3 We love & miss you so much!

Re: increased performance with cams?
Sunday, July 08, 2007 10:04 AM
RFOGALX wrote:I think i'll be getting the HPTuners before i get the cams, is that a good idea on my part or should i get the cams then the hp tuners. Right now i only have an exhaust, maybe a header and some mounts. For the future i plan on cams, stage 2 turbo kit since it is intercooled as you recommended, and an intake. Also is there any way i can hurt the car by using hp tuners, like engine damage or will it just run rough until i fix it again with hp tuners?


If you're going to go forced induction, then focus all your money and attention/research on it. It's a big project. I also wouldn't touch your motor as well till you actually decide for sure you're going to go forced induction, the cams you get can help power wise with it, that's why I say that.


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Re: increased performance with cams?
Sunday, July 08, 2007 4:54 PM
Last question about this topic, lol. I'm gonna save up and put all the time and money into the Hahn Stage 2 Turbo Kit, and i was wondering, do i need fuel mangement for that as well? Also, would the stage 2 hahn turbo kit on smg give me all of the parts and hardware that i need or is there something missing, it looks complete to me.

http://www.smgmotoring.com/products/27/4

Thanks for all the advice. That links just to smgmotoring for you to check over and see if it really is a completely turbo kit.


- 2003 CHEVY CAVALIER LS SPORT ECOTEC -

- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

RIP DAD<3 We love & miss you so much!
Re: increased performance with cams?
Sunday, July 08, 2007 7:00 PM
is the cat removed with the turbo ?


- 2003 CHEVY CAVALIER LS SPORT ECOTEC -

- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

RIP DAD<3 We love & miss you so much!
Re: increased performance with cams?
Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:03 PM
wait, i was reading another post and hahn turbo kits dont work on auto's? where can i get a turbo for the 2.2L ecotec auto tranny? or is it not true that hahn turbo's dont work on autos?


- 2003 CHEVY CAVALIER LS SPORT ECOTEC -

- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

RIP DAD<3 We love & miss you so much!
Re: increased performance with cams?
Monday, July 09, 2007 8:21 AM
RFOGALX wrote:wait, i was reading another post and hahn turbo kits dont work on auto's? where can i get a turbo for the 2.2L ecotec auto tranny? or is it not true that hahn turbo's dont work on autos?


I was originally going to tell you that they give you a FMU for fuel tuning but use HP Tuners, that'd be a better idea.

But...

It won't fit on your vehicle because of your automatic transmission. The way they route the piping, your automatic is right there.

There are no kits on the market for you specific application (being that you have a automatic transmission).



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Re: increased performance with cams?
Monday, July 09, 2007 3:36 PM
That really sucks hah, guess ill be going NA, thanks for the info though.


- 2003 CHEVY CAVALIER LS SPORT ECOTEC -

- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

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Re: increased performance with cams?
Monday, July 09, 2007 4:47 PM
RFOGALX wrote:That really sucks hah, guess ill be going NA, thanks for the info though.


No problem. You could always go custom...it's not impossible to turbo-charge your car.


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Re: increased performance with cams?
Monday, July 09, 2007 6:08 PM
Yeah i know, custom was more work then i expected though. I'll go N/A after i get some rims carbon hood and hpt.


- 2003 CHEVY CAVALIER LS SPORT ECOTEC -

- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

RIP DAD<3 We love & miss you so much!
Re: increased performance with cams?
Friday, July 13, 2007 2:24 PM
I'm gonna be going super charged in the next couple of months, so i'll be getting the blower cams. The charger will get me to the point that i'm shooting for which is mid to high 14's maybe lower end 14's eventually.


- 2003 CHEVY CAVALIER LS SPORT ECOTEC -

- Current Mods -
-- Vibrant Exhaust & DC Sport Header --
-- Lower Motor Mount & TTR Upper Motor Mount --
-- B&M ShiftPlus & Vibrant Front STB --
-- K&N Typhoon Short Ram Intake --

RIP DAD<3 We love & miss you so much!
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