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Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:53 PM
Thanks alot man. Is this something that the warranty will cover and the dealership can fix? Or not really, because it's not a recall? Thanks again!

Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Monday, March 15, 2004 4:54 PM
17,500 so far, and the car is doing good. the pcm re flash really helped the car out in my opinion. <br>

207 hp cavy
18,000 so far

200 hp rsx type S
23,900 still stock

I love my car
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:54 PM
its on warranty.

Every thing, bumper to bumper, is on warranty.
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:19 AM
I just got done reading all the posts here. I have an '03 Ion stick shift. I am a newbie trying to get up to speed. What's all this with cars idling funny and even dying at stop lights. Come on! These are not normal problems that should be shrugged-off. If your dealer cannot fix it, then you have a lemon and are entitled by law to a new replacement car. If my car had less than 100,000 miles on it and died for no reason at a stop light, I think that would be a huge problem. Also some low miles on some of these cars for replacing water pumps, starters, clutches. Cars nowadays should only get oil, gas, tires, and brakes during the first 100,000. Then you could change coolant, brake fluid, spark plugs, power steering fluid, brake rotors, shocks. You are making me think I made a mistake in buying my Ion.
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Wednesday, May 12, 2004 4:08 AM
Russel, you have to understand that these are people who love their cars, and who love to beat on them. Most people don't properly break in their new cars. GM builds jillions of these things. The vast majority have NO problems what so ever. GM spent more money developing this new Ecotec engine than did the newest Corvette engine. The Ecotec is the best 4 Cyl. made on the planet today. I also think that maybe your expectations are too high. Cars are manufactured. This means that some will have problems before 100k. It is a known fact. When you look at the value you're getting, there is no substitute.

I bought my 04 LS Sport Coupe on December 31, 2003. It has over 16,500 miles on it already. I haven't yet had a single problem.

<br>

04 Cavy LS Sport 5 Speed (34U) Rally Yellow - RK Sport Front & Rear Strut Tower
connectors. RK Sport "SS" Hood (functional CAI). XM Commander.
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:39 AM
I have a 2004 Sunfire 5 speed with about 14,000kms on it. I absolutely babied it until 1000kms, kept the revs under 4500, gradually drove it harder after 1000kms, changed the oil for synthetic 5w50 at 3000kms, and now I rev it to 6000rpm on a regular basis(at least a few times a day, heh). No problems with the engine so far at all. Transmission/clutch are fine. The only problems I have are this- The left front wheel bearing is making squeeling noises, maybe it wasn't properly worn in the first time I banged against the 108mph speed limiter? Also, and this is my fault, I know, the front brake rotors are slightly warped, due to too much heavy braking! lol, damn stock brakes on these cars suck. Well, I hope to get some better pads, slotted discs, and ss lines soon, see if that helps. Other than that, no problems.
<br>

2004 Electric Blue Sunfire.
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Monday, June 14, 2004 7:39 AM
I have an 02 eco with 46K+ on it right now. I bought it jan 02. I noticed that the RPMs liked to drop a little when it is warming up. I also noticed that there was clutch chater in spring 02. I have a buddy that is a service writer at the local chev dealer and he said that the gear lub wasn't thick enought and so he put som lube for saturn in it and it was fine but it only last about a year. I guess because it gets broken down. The brakeing was a problem for the car and so I did a brake upgrade to power slots. The last prob I noticed is with the clutch. It is vary weak. I wondered if they used a stock clutch from a reg 2.2L? All I know is I can't wait to replace it! Those are just minor prob. and the only prob with it I have had and I love my cav. It is the 3rd one I have owned!


Quote: no ofence man but if you have so much experience in all that why does your car look like crap?

Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:40 PM
huh ecotec clutch is way better the the old 2.2l OHV.
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:20 PM
53,000 on my 02 Eco and not 1 problem yet..Knock on wood!! <br>



Letz Run IT!!!
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Saturday, July 03, 2004 9:53 PM
J Pizzle wrote:53,000 on my 02 Eco and not 1 problem yet..Knock on wood!!


you have it since 2 years now ??? you make alot of trip with it ?? ive got almost 24000km on it and im not even with me first year with it. Its only in august !!!!
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Monday, August 09, 2004 5:45 AM
Only problems I've had with my '04 was a difficulty in getting the idle speed right. It'd fluctuate from 750-1500 while sitting at a light. And after I put on a new intake it would stay at 1500 when the clutch was in till I stopped. A week later it figured itself out and runs beautifully. <br>

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Stick shifts and Safety Belts
Buckets seats have all got to go
When I'm driving in my car
It makes my baby seem so far

Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:38 PM
Hey man

My trunk got wet too after it rained.
There's a vent, or something like that, on the right side of the bottom of the trunk that is loose.
I removed the carpet in the trunk, and popped the vent into place .
No more leak.

Walt
04 sunfire
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Sunday, September 12, 2004 12:58 PM
I've got 14,000 on my '03 LS sport coupe 5spd. Every now and again my rpms will drop "too quickly" when I engage the clutch. Sometimes it'll shut off, but sometimes it bounces back up to normal (900 rpm). A buddy of mine has a Focus Z-tec and he said he has the same proplem and this other ricer I know with a V-tec has the same problem as well. Is it somethin about the O2 sensors on 'tec motors or what?
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Monday, September 13, 2004 7:04 PM
Walter Pawliw wrote:Hey man

My trunk got wet too after it rained.
There's a vent, or something like that, on the right side of the bottom of the trunk that is loose.
I removed the carpet in the trunk, and popped the vent into place .
No more leak.

Walt
04 sunfire


got that problem to after gotten the bulbs light changed in both sides.
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Thursday, September 23, 2004 6:56 AM
Jon H. wrote:For some reason, my rear tail lights burnt out! Not at the same time, but they both expired!

The sockets for the Taillights/Brake lights are junk and burn out a lot, much like the Trailblazers. At our dealership we replace both sides even if only side is burnt out, cause we know the other side is gonna go sometime soon anyways. The socket for the rear sidemarker and the socket for the tail light comes as one part.
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:03 PM
well i have a 2002 with 53,500 miles on it and i have the following issues

#1 the clutch buzz feeling thing described on the 2nd page.

#2 drivers side window doesnt work anymore.

#3 idle flucuates when defrost/ac is on. it only did it once but it went from 500 to normal idle of 900 over and over kinda freaked me out.

#4 My drivers side rear turn signal bulb went out on me and i got some new ones and now the brake light works, parking light works but the turn signal works some days some days it dont and the emergency flasher works on both sides.

#5 i get the squeeking type noise from the front drivers side suspension.

#6 my passenger side front door speaker some times works and some times it dont (i know that doesnt pertain to the motor its self but hey)

thats all i can think of so far.


Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:20 PM
importfightercavalier wrote:#4 My drivers side rear turn signal bulb went out on me and i got some new ones and now the brake light works, parking light works but the turn signal works some days some days it dont and the emergency flasher works on both sides.


wrong bulb? i know that exact same thing happened on my 94 cav, turns out i had the bulb in it <br>

2004 Cavalier ~ 15.98 - Stock
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:39 PM
HMMM that makes no sense. i got the exact number off the stock bulb and got some replacements with that exact number on them....


Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:30 AM
i fixed the turn signal issue. i went to the dealer to get the reflash done for the idle isue and got me a new connector and bulb and it fixed it. only was 8 bucks too so wasnt to bad and it works perfectly now...


Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:01 PM
I have a 2004 Cavalier Sedan with 15,000kms. No problems to date.
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Friday, October 29, 2004 12:58 PM
Well, it seems like there are people that have some problems and others ( probably the vast majority) that don't.

Being an ex motorcycle mechanic, I seen many cases of guys that ride the crap out of a new high performance bike and have problems, because they haven't given the machine a chance to break in properly. Others who take the time to break their bikes in don't seem to have nearly as many problems.
During the years that I worked as a bike mechanic, I often thought that driving and breaking in a new bike was much the same as someone who wanted to run marathons. If a person who was not conditioned ( or broken in, so to speak) tried to run a marathon, that person would be totally wrecked physically and would not even think of trying to run another one. However, a person who trained properly and gradually worked up to that level could run a few marathons a year without too much discomfort. I know this because I've been there and done that!

I just changed the oil in my new 2005 Sunfire for the first time at 1000km and so far, I haven't had even the slightest indication of any problems. The clutch and the 5 speed work just fine as does everything else but then again, I haven't tried to red line the engine either!

I won't even consider pushing this baby to any kind of limit until I feel that it is well broken in, probably around 5000km at the very minimum.....

Just my opinion ........rook

Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:21 PM
Sorry to beat a dead horse, but in regards to frequent stalling that seems to be a common occurance I have two questions.

1) Has this problem been solved on '04 Ecotecs?

2) Is this an IAC related problem or merely a computer fault ? I see that they can be reflashed to solve this.

Any info would be good as I plan to buy an '04 Chevy in the next 2-3 weeks.

Thanks,
Jason
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Saturday, November 13, 2004 11:19 PM
The Suspension in the back is pretty strong in the back...in the car i mean.. i love how the seats fold down flat!!
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Sunday, November 14, 2004 4:33 PM
Brandon Gathye wrote:The Suspension in the back is pretty strong in the back...in the car i mean.. i love how the seats fold down flat!!
my stock struts were blown at 7,000 miles(replaced with KYB AGX's) i have a buzzing clutch. and i think the slave cylinder is leaking onto the clutch. but she runs good lol tires down to the tread wear indicators at 7500 miles. the 12 autocrosses might have something to do with that
Re: Ok, so whats wrong with the ecos?
Sunday, November 14, 2004 8:20 PM
It's been almost 1 year since I got my Cav...03 base. So far 44,000 km's and the only things I've had to replace is one brake light and 2 rad hose clamps. Other then that the car runs/drives great.
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