15.4 @ 89.xx mph with a 2.2 60' mods are rk wai,cc lower mount,fidanza short throw
15.4 @ 89mph
i have something between a cav and a sunfire....
-custom intake and exhaust
-16" wheels
-weapon r header
-hahn turbo
oh and im a lousy driver
1/4 - 14.9
on a separate matter, i am totally confused here....
BewstAdd1ct (Loring) wrote:lol... you guys need boost.
the 02 with 6 speed.
12.8 @113
intake/header/50shot
full interior with jack and spare.
yet....
Darkstars wrote:
anyways best run to date was 14.2
intake, TB, spark springs, header, cat, catback, upper and lower engine mounts, prostreet coilovers, 50 shot NX wet kit
eco-power 04 wrote:13.8 @98 mph
aem intake, weapon R header, magnaflow cat, resonatort and muffler, custom 31/4" piping, b&M short throw, koni, gc's, azenis sports, NX wet kit (75 shot)
how the hell can someone get a 12/13 second car from a 50 shot and packed interior with no other major mods?
anyone else smell bullsh*t?
we can set up a money race if you dont believe me.
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we can set up a money race if you dont believe me.
like that will ever happen. since your mr ASE master tech you should have taken an auto math course in college. and you wouldve seen a formulas that find hp from weight of the car and the quarter mile trap speeds. if your running high 12s you would be going about 110-120 depending on your 60'. now if your car which lets say weighs 3500 lbs (probably more in reality) and you had a trap speed of 120 your horspower at the wheels would be 472.0241. your car has 260 stock i think so the intake 265 and nitrous 315 minus 15% loss in drivetrain = around 268 at the wheels. so with 268 at the wheels and 3500 lbs your car would go 13.7 at 99.
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haha, dont know what all that math @!#$ was about, but it sure does sound good. BTW your an ass for saying you ran a 12.8 BAH!!!! I have an SRT-4 modded and cant even run a 12.8 and im running 14lbs of boost. dork...
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we can set up a money race if you dont believe me.
like that will ever happen. since your mr ASE master tech you should have taken an auto math course in college. and you wouldve seen a formulas that find hp from weight of the car and the quarter mile trap speeds. if your running high 12s you would be going about 110-120 depending on your 60'. now if your car which lets say weighs 3500 lbs (probably more in reality) and you had a trap speed of 120 your horspower at the wheels would be 472.0241. your car has 260 stock i think so the intake 265 and nitrous 315 minus 15% loss in drivetrain = around 268 at the wheels. so with 268 at the wheels and 3500 lbs your car would go 13.7 at 99.
i appreciate the counterpoint, but the car weighs 3200 lbs, headers are 30 WHEEL hp on my car. its been measured consistantly. my trap wasnt 120, it was 113. i said that already. and i also find it interesting that a car whose HP at the FLY is 420 runs a 12.3
which would actually be about 350 wheel AT MOST. im talking about a 3500lb 996 Turbo. looks like your calculator is off... and why to i need math to read a timeslip? i dont. i dont have to prove anything to you... i really dont care if you believe me or not. i have slips and a few witnesses, and next time ill have video. i was just posting up to be a part of the community. i wasnt expecting the flame job i got.
as far as the money race, as long as the car is up to par, the offer is open. wether its likely or not. not like i have my hopes up for it happening. but since he'll be paying my gas both ways, hotels and all that good stuff, seeing new places might be nice. shutting the @!#$ talkers up is also a nice little bonus. but yeah, itll never happen.
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...anyone else?
so your saying your car has 360 horses???? can i PLEASE!!!! see a dyno chart or something and a list of your mods cause id like to know how you have 360 WHP. intake header and 50 shot is all i see you have with full interior..... all i have to say is..RETARD!!
but it is fun to watch you try to convince us!
you arent talking about an ecotec powered car are you bewst?
BTW i used that "calculator" from the post a few up and it said a 3200 lb car with a trap of 113 would have to have 360 horses. i really dont think you have a 360 WHP ecotec. I love dem ecos just as much as the next. but with the mods you said you have... haha not gonna happen dude. unless you turn your centrifical force acuator and you bling bling dohicky thingamajob up to about 400 cFM's and then add some stickers to the side of your car. then maybe i can see it. i can sell y ou a bling bling dohicky thingamajob if you want one. 50 bucks man, brand new in the box !!!
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headers are 30 WHEEL hp on my
bull sh*t show me proof headers on forced induction cobras dont produce gains like that let alone a N/A maxima. im sorry dude i deal with bull sh*t like this all summer at the race track ive seen cars with way more done go about the same speed. i used to own a 302 lx foxbody with trick flow tw heads, vortech 6psi blower,bbk shorty headers,upper&lower intake plenums,4.10 gears,nitto drag radials on weld wheels,etc..etc...that car ran high to mid 12s man. i just dont see your car running with something that highly modified.
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deltron3030 wrote: bull sh*t show me proof headers on forced induction cobras dont produce gains like that let alone a N/A maxima.
lol... take a deep breath, step back, count to 10...
now, ask yourself WHY cobras dont get that gain. is it possibly because the car is a performance vehicle to begin with, so the manifolds in stock form flow pretty decent already? '
gain' isnt about the bigger performer, its about the MOST RESTRICTIVE DESIGN from the factory. The packaging requirements of the VQ35 require precats VERY close to the ports, and a restrictive manifold design. your proof is over on maxima.org. read through the n/a performance or the 5th gen forum and see if you cant find youself a plot. itll be a 25-30 wheel gain. i promise.
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im sorry dude i deal with bull sh*t like this all summer at the race track ive seen cars with way more done go about the same speed. i used to own a 302 lx foxbody with trick flow tw heads, vortech 6psi blower,bbk shorty headers,upper&lower intake plenums,4.10 gears,nitto drag radials on weld wheels,etc..etc...that car ran high to mid 12s man. i just dont see your car running with something that highly modified.
are you sure its not because you started with about 210 horse to begin with? on a car with low compression and weaksauce indicated HP outputs, that dont lend themselves to the externals of the engine. if youd like, i can show you a video of another maxima that runs a 12.1 on slicks and 100 shot (this particular run is a 12.3, i cant find the 12.1 run). oh, its also an automatic. throw a 6 speed into the mix, and id bet the difference in spray will give us our ½ second, plus or minus. or are you just upset because your worked 5.0 would be tailed closely by a daily driven family car...with groceries in the trunk? i really dont see whats so hard to believe. especially considering...
david wilson wrote:BTW i used that "calculator" from the post a few up and it said a 3200 lb car with a trap of 113 would have to have 360 horses. i really dont think you have a 360 WHP ecotec. I love dem ecos just as much as the next. but with the mods you said you have... haha not gonna happen dude. unless you turn your centrifical force acuator and you bling bling dohicky thingamajob up to about 400 cFM's and then add some stickers to the side of your car. then maybe i can see it. i can sell y ou a bling bling dohicky thingamajob if you want one. 50 bucks man, brand new in the box !!!
lol... A for effort. show me on the page where it say WHEEL horsepower... it doesnt. and yes, id bet im somewhere between 350 and 400 at the fly. no i dont have a dyno plot. if you require one, ill give you my paypal address and you can go halfers with me on the pull.
30 wheel with headers would be 35-45 or more at the fly, add an intake and 50 at the wheels (or call it the fly, if youd like. NX quotes their figures at the wheels, however) on top of the 265 stock and there you have it. play with the numbers as you see fit, but that calculator isnt the gospel, its just a general guide. david, stop being a fu**ing bench racer. at least deltron had something reasonable and real world to compare it to.
BTW kudos to you, deltron for actually reading my profile. all the others calling me a retard and such surely should feel like one now for making a poor assumption.
for the record, my ecotec isnt running at all right now. its on an engine stand awaiting a rotating assembly. i dont expect completion any sooner than this time next year. besides, thatll give me enough time to find it a home. ill be in my 12 second family car in the meantime. or maybe in the s-10 if im out getting a money run in.
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or are you just upset because your worked 5.0 would be tailed closely by a daily driven family car...with groceries in the trunk? i really dont see whats so hard to believe
if youd have read my profile i do not own that car anymore im not realy a ford guy but you can build fast 302s for dirt cheap.oh and put a 50 shot on that mustang and see what happens. i also happen to like maximas they are very strong family cars i think high 14s stock with 3500 right?, but are not 12 sec cars with i/h. according to your profile youve never raced it so you are just bench racing yourself if you have run it let me see your timeslip.
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but that calculator isnt the gospel, its just a general guide
correct it cannot completly account for gear ratios 60' but youd be suprised how close it is. also show me who makes your headers and where your bought them.
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show me on the page where it say WHEEL horsepower
it is whp there would be know way for it to figure out flywheel hp there are too many variables auto tranny eats up horse,driveshaft,brake rotors,and the wheels them self, the way it works is by computing how much work is done in a given time period there is no way to measure hp at the flywheel on perf calc this is not something new they have been around since the 60's
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IM NOT QUITE SURE Y YOU GUYS ARE ALL ARGUING ABOUT HP AND WHP. ANYBODY WHO HAS GONE TO SCHOOL FOR AN AUTOMOTIVE APPRENTICESHIP SHOULD KNOW THAT ITS NOT HP THAT MAKES YOUR CAR FAST, ITS TORQUE. THE FASTER YOU ACCELERATE THE FASTER YOUR TRACK TIME. CORRECT ME IF I AM MISTAKEN.
Matthew Strong wrote:IM NOT QUITE SURE Y YOU GUYS ARE ALL ARGUING ABOUT HP AND WHP. ANYBODY WHO HAS GONE TO SCHOOL FOR AN AUTOMOTIVE APPRENTICESHIP SHOULD KNOW THAT ITS NOT HP THAT MAKES YOUR CAR FAST, ITS TORQUE. THE FASTER YOU ACCELERATE THE FASTER YOUR TRACK TIME. CORRECT ME IF I AM MISTAKEN.
buuuuuut......people on here lie, they lie about having certification, they lie about knowing the stupidest sh*t that is false. it always comes out though, they get caught disagreeing with something that they 'should' know or saying something so stupid.
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IM NOT QUITE SURE Y YOU GUYS ARE ALL ARGUING ABOUT HP AND WHP. ANYBODY WHO HAS GONE TO SCHOOL FOR AN AUTOMOTIVE APPRENTICESHIP SHOULD KNOW THAT ITS NOT HP THAT MAKES YOUR CAR FAST, ITS TORQUE. THE FASTER YOU ACCELERATE THE FASTER YOUR TRACK TIME. CORRECT ME IF I AM MISTAKEN
your right but a performance calculator could care less, this is all theoretical and based on horsepower to weight ratios not torque that is why we are talking about horsepower.if you think alls it takes is toque to win races go drive a 305 powered f car 250 ft/lbs plus 155 horsepower equals its all over after 3000 rpm.
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buuuuuut......people on here lie, they lie about having certification, they lie about knowing the stupidest sh*t that is false. it always comes out though, they get caught disagreeing with something that they 'should' know or saying something so stupid.
people lie
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YES I AGREE, YOU DO NEED HP BUT AN RX-8, IT HAS LOTS OF HP, BUT LITTLE TORQUE, AND MAN IS IT EVER OVER RATED FOR BEING A FAST CAR, SO I'VE HEARD. ALSO PPL LIE TOO MUCH
excactly you need both, i prefer my cars to have a little more torque than horsepower,im not arguing that. its just that the way these calculators work all it needs to calculate approximate elapsed time is horspower.
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well first off i have read all of you talking bull@!#$ and find it very funny. some of you guys have headers on your ecos and and no power adders, that is hurting you guys. alot of you have almost every bolt on and still running in the 15.5 sec. range. thats alot of money for very little gain. i cant believe that there are not more turbo ecos. and for all you guys trying to be bad ass and calling people liars, why dont you just keep your f**king thoughts to yourself.
Matthew Strong wrote:IM NOT QUITE SURE Y YOU GUYS ARE ALL ARGUING ABOUT HP AND WHP. ANYBODY WHO HAS GONE TO SCHOOL FOR AN AUTOMOTIVE APPRENTICESHIP SHOULD KNOW THAT ITS NOT HP THAT MAKES YOUR CAR FAST, ITS TORQUE. THE FASTER YOU ACCELERATE THE FASTER YOUR TRACK TIME. CORRECT ME IF I AM MISTAKEN.
yes, you are mistaken. torque an horsepower are directly related with a function of speed. torque will get you out of the hole nicely, and is definately important, but once youre rolling down the track its all about the horsepower. My dad had a Saab 900SE turbo, for example. his peak torque came in at 2100 RPMs. if he were to drive utilizing the torquiest portion of the powerband (shifting at about 2700 RPMs), he would have been left behind by an exact same car using the peak power portion of the powerband. people say torque wins races because its a necessity to cut a good short time, and its true... races can be won or lost, and often are at the 60foot mark. but as far as trap speed goes, its a power contest.
and BTW, matt, your caps lock key is on
Blown Ecotec wrote:
buuuuuut......people on here lie, they lie about having certification, they lie about knowing the stupidest sh*t that is false. it always comes out though, they get caught disagreeing with something that they 'should' know or saying something so stupid.
yep. you can usually find a liar by calling them out. ive called you out a few times now, havent i?
BewstAdd1ct wrote:and BTW, matt, your caps lock key is on
Blown Ecotec wrote:
buuuuuut......people on here lie, they lie about having certification, they lie about knowing the stupidest sh*t that is false. it always comes out though, they get caught disagreeing with something that they 'should' know or saying something so stupid.
yep. you can usually find a liar by calling them out. ive called you out a few times now, havent i?
haha oh really? in your little "money race" that you wanted above? im sorry, please, lets arrange a money race....you are in florida i am in vegas.....check your geography, you make the drive and i will race you, no problem.
read some of your previous threads, all of your mouthing people off actually got to you.
welcome back anyways, long time no see.
Blown Ecotec wrote:haha oh really? in your little "money race" that you wanted above? im sorry, please, lets arrange a money race....you are in florida i am in vegas.....check your geography, you make the drive and i will race you, no problem.
your ecotec on street tires and pump gas. from a dig, marked quarter mile? how much are we talking?
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read some of your previous threads, all of your mouthing people off actually got to you.
welcome back anyways, long time no see.
i dont mouth off, peole just take me the wrong way
and umm. how did it get to me??
