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So yeah... anyways... back to my question and the post... they're saying that the information was manipulated just to make Bush look good?
no, the information was manipulated in the administrative branch to convince the congress and american people that there was an absolute need for a war with iraq. when indeed there wasnt a need for it at the time.
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But the mounting evidence of scandal that has been uncovered in the U.N. Oil For Food program suggests that there was never a serious possibility of getting Security Council support for military action because influential people in Russia and France were getting paid off by Saddam. After the fall of Baghdad last spring, France and Russia tried to delay the lifting of sanctions against Iraq and continue the Oil for Food program. That's because France and Russia profited from it: The Times of London calculated that French and Russian companies received $11 billion worth of business from Oil for Food between 1996 and 2003.
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Oil For Food Confrontations connect Saddam to Al Queda attacks and more....
Saddam's Ties to Al Queda ^ | 052605 | Sam Pender
The following stems from my book, Saddam's Ties to Al Queda. The book is a monster-sized info source for Al Queda, and the ties to Saddam's Iraq, but it also has a massive section based on the oil-for-food scandal on which Saddam's ties seem to have revolved. This is not a Bush Admin theory, but my theory, and it's proven in the book. This post lists a summary of the various oil-for-food confrontations, but the book details each one even further. Each confrontation summarized in this post, can be viewed in detail in the book, or in the hyperlink used as the source for this post. There's a LOT of information here, and it took some time, so I hope you find it informative and perhaps even useful. -Sam Pender
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Oil-For-Food Program Confrontations
1 January 1, 1996 May 4, 1996 Refusal to work with UNSCOM + backdoor oil sales deal with Turkey and US tactical win for Iraq
2 June 1, 1996 June 25, 1996 Refusal to work with UNSCOM + backdoor oil sales deal with France + pressure from Arab Summit ended with Khobar Towers attack decisive win for Iraq
3 July 4, 1996 September 3, 1996 Caught smuggling oil with Iran + invaded Kurdish areas = increase in No-Fly-Zones loss for Iraq
4 December 9, 1996 December 31, 1996 UN appeased + Arab Summit putting pressure on Iraq resolved with Iraq terrorist attack at Summit on 12/31/96 decisive win
5 January 1, 1997 February 12, 1997 smuggling fails/intercepted = increase in terror prep and rhetoric loss for Iraq
6 January 29, 1997 September 1, 1997 smuggling increases to Sudan + terror support for Sudan increases = new outside base of ops for AQ and Iraq at the same time draw
7 March 4, 1997 April 4, 1997 smuggling increases + backdoor deal with Russia tactical win for Iraq
8 May 4, 1997 May 4, 1997 backdoor deal with Turkey tactical win for Iraq
9 June 1, 1997 August 1, 1997 Refusal to work with UNSCOM + backdoor deal with Syria =UN appeasement tactical win for Iraq
10 September 1, 1997 October 8, 1997 Refusal to work with UNSCOM + backdoor deal with Turkey =UN appeasement tactical win for Iraq
11 October 23, 1997 November 3, 1997 Refusal to work with UNSCOM + backdoor deal with Russia = UN appeasement tactical win for Iraq
12 November 12, 1997 November 28, 1997 Refusal to work with UNSCOM fails to lead to UN appeasement loss for Iraq
13 December 4, 1997 January 4, 1998 Refusal to work with UNSCOM + backdoor deal with France, Italy, China, and Russia tactical win for Iraq
14 January 4, 1998 February 1, 1998 Refusal to work with UNSCOM = UN appeasement tactical win for Iraq
15 January 27, 1998 February 20, 1998 Threats from US lead to threats from UBL and closer ops between Iraq and AQ. Then Iraq makes demands of UN (!), smuggling is intercepted. Ends with UN appeasement tactical win for Iraq
16 February 21, 1998 March 26, 1998 Iraq appeases UN re WMD inspections, then immediately begins to work with Bin Laden in depth. Backdoor deal with France reopens inspections, but only in action, nor in substance. draw
17 April 4, 1998 June 19, 1998 Pressure from UN, US, and human rights groups against Iraq leads to closer ties between Iraq and AQ. UBL declares war on US, Iraq threatens US within hours of each other. Embassy bombers are set in motion a few days later. UN, US, and human rights groups appease Iraq's demands. tactical win for Iraq
18 July 4, 1998 July 4, 1998 backdoor deals made with Libya, Syria, Jordan, Iran, and Turkey=UN appeasement tactical win for Iraq
19 July 4, 1998 August 20, 1998 UN threatens OFF pricing, and immediately after Iraq and AQ high level meetings occur. Iraqi govt threatens "dire consequences", refuses to work with UNSCOM, and embassy bombings occur the next day. US attacks Sudan and Afghanistan to no effect. Backdoor deal with Iran and Syria=UN appeasement tactical win for Iraq
20 August 25, 1998 August 27, 1998 Iraq makes demands of UNSCOM and UN appeases tactical win for Iraq
21 September 3, 1998 December 15, 1998 UNSCOM makes demands of Iraq. Iraq makes demands of UN. US threatens war, but calls back the planes in mid-air to abort mission when Iraq appeases UNSCOM. Iraq ignores agreement, US makes 4 day impotent attack, and inspectors are removed. Desert Fox leads to 911 plot being set in motion 12/16-12/21 decisive win
22 January 4, 1999 January 4, 1999 backdoor deal with Jordan + Iraqi demands of UN = UN appeasement tactical win for Iraq
23 January 11, 1999 April 4, 1999 Massive UN appeasement + backdoor deals with Turkey and Syria =even more UN appeasement decisive win for Iraq
24 April 4, 1999 October 4, 1999 US diplomatic pressure falls on deaf ears + backdoor deals with US companies, Jordan, Syria, and Turkey = massive UN appeasement decisive win for Iraq
25 November 20, 1999 January 27, 2000 Iraq makes demands of UN, UN agrees to end game for sanctions via UN1284 and UNMOVIC. Millenium plot intercepted. Malaysia meeting takes place where USS Cole and 911 attacks are planned. Facilitators to those attacks attend meeting with Iraqi embassy help. Backdoor deal and smuggling with Jordan increases = UN appeasement tactical win for Iraq
26 January 3, 2000 January 15, 2000 Millenium plot failed, Malaysia meeting where USS Cole and 911 attacks are planned has the facilitators for those attacks attend with help from Iraqi embassy. Iraq gets very close to terrorist leaders (including Nidal). Iraq encourages Palestinian terror and intifadah begins. end game to use terror as tool for driving UN and US from region is put in play successfully. tactical win for Iraq
27 February 3, 2000 March 31, 2000 Russian tanker smuggling oil intercepted, but instead of retribution, UN appeases Iraq further tactical win for Iraq
28 April 4, 2000 August 10, 2000 Iraq makes demands of all its oil buyers, and the entire world appeases tactical win for Iraq
29 August 29, 2000 October 23, 2000 Iraq makes demands of UN re WMD inspectors and sanctions. USS Cole attacked, but distracted by US election…there is no will for a response. UN appeases Iraq's demands decisive win for Iraq
30 November 16, 2000 November 21, 2000 Iraq makes demands of UN, but is rebuffed so instead smuggles oil via Syria without UN intervention tactical win for Iraq
31 November 30, 2000 December 13, 2000 Iraq refuses to discuss inspectors with UN, makes demands of UN, halts oil, and later reopens sales of oil after UN appeases tactical win for Iraq
32 March 2, 2001 July 21, 2001 UN complains about OFF not being used for humanitarian purposes, but does nothing. Later, UN appeases Iraq further and further. Incident(s) end with what many see as veiled threat from Iraq predicting 911 attacks on NYC in a threat against NYC ("Frank Sinatra's town") decisive win for Iraq
33 August 13, 2001 November 27, 2001 Iraq increases open smuggling with Syria, but UN does nothing. In the wake of the 911 attacks, Saddam is the only world leader to praise UBL, and as Afghanistan is attacked, Saddam makes the demand of UN to remove sanctions in exchange for return of inspectors. UN does nothing. draw
January 20, 2002 President Bush puts Iraq on notice that it is part of the Axis of Evil, must allow inspectors to return (they will a year later), and the time to comply with the UN is coming soon. 8 months later, he will begin making the case for war with Iraq. 15 months after the SOTU speech the US will invade Iraq over its failure to comply with the UN, failure to resolve WMD disarmament issues, and close ties to Al Queda+other terror groups. loss for Iraq
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"U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley"
"U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq's weapons of mass destruction have finally been located. Unfortunately, getting to them will be nearly impossible for the United States and its allies, because the containers with the strategic materials are not in Iraq. Instead they are located in Lebanon's heavily-fortified Bekaa Valley, swarming with Iranian and Syrian forces, and Hizbullah and ex-Iraqi agents…. U.S. intelligence first identified a stream of tractor-trailer trucks moving from Iraq to Syria to Lebanon in January 2003. The significance of this sighting did not register on the CIA at the time. U.S. intelligence sources believe the area contains extended-range Scud-based missiles and parts for chemical and biological warheads.
Mutually-lucrative Iraqi-Syrian arms transactions are nothing new. Firas Tlas, son of Syrian Defense Minister Mustafa Tlas, has been the key to Syria's rogue alliance with Iraq. He and Assad made hundreds of millions of dollars selling weapons, oil and drugs to and from Iraq, according to the May 13, 2003 edition of Geostrategy-Direct.com. The CIA now believes a multi-million dollar deal between Iraq and Syria provided for the hiding and safekeeping of Saddam's strategic weapons…."
And the Saddam/Syria mutual shipment society also went INTO Iraq:
"Western intelligence reports allege that several Syrian officials or their adult children were involved in shipments of tank engines, treads for armored personnel carriers, fuel pumps for missiles and other military equipment to Iraq.
One Syrian named in an intelligence report as a "key player" is Firas Tlass, head of MAS Economic Group, a business conglomerate based in Damascus...."
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I think we should start up the draft, and take all the anti-american little kiddies first
EastCoastBeast II wrote:Quote:
I think we should start up the draft, and take all the anti-american little kiddies first
amen...
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Here's an idea: Send the Kids of Senators and Congresspersons over first. Maybe that'll sober the power drunks up a little.