Jackalope wrote:NAT, how about FOOD? And since you brought up GOD, I believe GOD said it was OK to eat the flesh of animals. Remember ? After the whole flood thing?
he may have at the time said it was neccesary to eat an animal to stay alive. because at that time in history there wasnt many choices for food. however, in todays society the act of eating an animal is strictly because u like it and or dont care. this would be considered both greed and gluttony along with a whole slew of other things.
the bible and faiths and religions are all interpretations. no side can SAY they are %100 correct over the other. at least not at this point, unless god/jesus came down and stated definite truths and meanings directly to the public.
from the bible some excerpts
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, they who partake of benefits which are gotten by wronging one of God's creatures, cannot be righteous: nor can they touch holy things, or teach the mysteries of the kingdom, whose hands are stained With blood, or whose mouths are defiled with flesh.
God giveth the grains and the fruits of the earth for food: and for righteous man truly there is no other lawful sustenance for the body.
he understands that at some point u may HAVE to eat/kill an animal to survive, but that doesnt mean its "ok" and encouraged. hence the word "lawfull". member thou shalt not kill.
But if any animal suffer greatly, and if its life be a misery unto it. or if it be dangerous to you, release it from its life quickly, and with as little pain as you can, Send it forth in love and mercy, but torment it not, and God the Father-Mother will shew mercy unto you, as ye have shown mercy unto those given into your hands.
also all of these saints were vegetarian:
St. Basil, St. John Chrysostom, and St. Francis of Assisi.
there are also many quotes from the bible where it states to eat meat and states to give sacrafice etc...
so for such a ancient mutliple translation contradicting text written through multiple peoples interpretations and memories of events, for people to claim a specific quote or part of the bible as its entire meaning is assanine.
and for people to live word for word literaly off of text that should be taken seriously and interpreted is also illogical.
and to live by standards set within text that had no knowledge of society and human development thousands and thousands of years later, just doesnt make sense.
times change, people change, religions change (how many times has the christian faith changed their official standings on things, too many to count)
there is no religion that is CORRECT. the point is to live ur life in a way you feel yoru god would actually want you to live.
and if you feel that your god believes it is ok to for no neccesary reason to survive to raise animals in bad conditions, kill animals in production lines by the billions per year, and eat them hand over fist to the point of causing yrou own body harm through high blood pressure, heart disease, liver problems, cholesterol, obesity... than so be it.
but that is not what i believe. and theres a whole world out there that has nothing to do with PETA that feel the same way as i do. entire countries in fact. through centuries of history.
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regardless of all that, i was raised catholic. i do not attend church and i do not know wether or not there is an actual being/god in which created life itself.
i currently in my belief systems resemble and identify most with buhdism. the only thing so far i have not been able to follow through a year or two of reading and trying to understand the ways is reincarnation. buhdists eat no meat and use no animal products. and attempt to have as little impact on the world around them as possible.
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Anyway PETA tried to hand out those little "your mommy kills bunnies" comics around
here and they run out by the police before the parents could get to then cause we would have beaten the crap out of them.
some people are stupid. first of all, while i do not see a damn thign wrong with these comics i would nto pass them out. i dont feel the need to target children even tho i dont see anythign wrong wiht it. id much rather try to educate or open adults minds to new things. and have intelligent conversations... even tho sometimes thats not possible.
those people im sure were trespassing on private property. because the law stats that anyoen anywhere can leaflet anything they want as long as it is not somethign illegal (drugs/porno etc) as long as they are on public property.
those people were idiots. many people are idiots. many things peta does are idiotic. however that does not make their cause bad.
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They are nothing more then ECO-terrorists and even tho I agree with the view of animal testing I don't agree with how they go about doing what they do. Burning places to the ground after brakeing in to release the animals. Not looking to see if people are even there or not before the start, NO ANIMAL LIFE IS WORTH MORE THEN A HUMANS.
Then how about where do those newly liberated animals go? Who takes car of them?
Who feeds them? Are they natural to the area OR are the idiots at PETA just issueing them all a death sentence cause they can't fend for themselves?
first of all what u speak of is the ALF. animal liberation front. a group of criminal element that use direct action to free animals. while it obviously free these animals from their suffering i do not agree with breaking the law to get things done.
secondly, any and all animals rescued/taken are then given to farm/lab/abuse sanctuaries. most of which (the real ones) have large on site agricultural staff along with fulyl self contained and educated veterinary staff.
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PETA needs to make a LOT of changes before I'll ever think them anything more then
terrorists
totally agree. their cause is awesome. some of their strategies are far less than stellar
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