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Re: Hardcore Punk
Monday, March 19, 2007 9:15 PM on j-body.org
My music is emo/screamo.

The Used, Dead Poetic, From First to Last, Hawthorne Heights, Underoath, Billy Talent, My Chemical Romance, AFI, Senses Fail, Brand New, Motion City Soundtrack, Blink-182/Angels and Airwaves/+44, Fallout Boy, Cartel, Alexisonfire, A Change of Pace, Coheed and Cambria, Rise Against, Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, Taking Back Sunday, The Academy Is.., Bullet for my Valentine, A Beautiful Mistake, Emery..

List goes on. I never listend to 'real' punk. Never listened to much of anything else. I relate to what I choose to listen to, so emo/screamo it is.




Re: Hardcore Punk
Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:15 AM on j-body.org
kidduntradishunal wrote:My music is emo/screamo.

The Used, Dead Poetic, From First to Last, Hawthorne Heights, Underoath, Billy Talent, My Chemical Romance, AFI, Senses Fail, Brand New, Motion City Soundtrack, Blink-182/Angels and Airwaves/+44, Fallout Boy, Cartel, Alexisonfire, A Change of Pace, Coheed and Cambria, Rise Against, Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, Taking Back Sunday, The Academy Is.., Bullet for my Valentine, A Beautiful Mistake, Emery..

List goes on. I never listend to 'real' punk. Never listened to much of anything else. I relate to what I choose to listen to, so emo/screamo it is.

all this is screamo...i see no true emo music here




Re: Hardcore Punk
Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:48 AM on j-body.org
I would hope Rise Against would fall more into the category of punk





Re: Hardcore Punk
Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:23 AM on j-body.org
EZ3K1EL wrote:I would hope Rise Against would fall more into the category of punk


They're borderline, I'd almost say more rock than punk. But they're awesome so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt



Re: Hardcore Punk
Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:25 PM on j-body.org
bradsk88 wrote:
EZ3K1EL wrote:I would hope Rise Against would fall more into the category of punk


They're borderline, I'd almost say more rock than punk. But they're awesome so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt


If you think their CD is good, you should see them live. So much energy



Re: Hardcore Punk
Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:03 PM on j-body.org
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Grunge evaporated the day that Kurt Cobain killed himself.

Pearl Jam is really the only band left out of that movement... well, PJ and Foo Fighters. It's not as if it shred itself apart or droned itself into mediocrity (ala Rock in the early 90's and basically all of the 80's after New Wave), it made its mark, and that was that... it hasn't reasserted itself. Either way, Emo is hopefully going to be a flash in the pan, and hiphop infused rock isn't likely to return, but it was a product of the time. Hip Hop is on life support, Electro isn't big enough outside dance halls, and Rock is still kinda dull and is basically just re-hashing the same crap over and over again... it really is what pushed me back to classic rock from the 60's, 70's and early 80's, electro, and Classical/opera.

Rock and roll died about 20 years ago, there's no sense in trying to revive it.



wrong on one part..grunge died with layne staley...not cobain



Re: Hardcore Punk
Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:04 PM on j-body.org
Darkstars, I see your punk rock and raise it by 100 fold, mind you this is just a taste of what I own


The Clash - Combat Rock, The Damned - Damned Damned Damned on yellow vinyl, Ramones - Rocket to Russia, Bad Religion - No Control, Circle Jerks - Group Sex, Dead Kennedys - In God we Trust Inc., Operation Ivy - Energy.


Seven Seconds - The Crew, Bad Religion - Suffer, Bad Religion - How could Hell be any worse?


Sex Pistols - The Great Rock and Roll Swindle Soundtrack


Operation Ivy - Energy picture disk, The Clash - London Calling, John Carroll Band - Catholic Boy, Minor Threat Demo 7", Judge - Fed Up! 7", Rancid - Time Bomb 7", and of course Dead Kennedys - Nazi Punks @!#$ OFF! 7"


My fat stack of 60's ska 45's


One of two of my turntables. Oh yeah, almost forgot, two of my tattoos:






Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:04 AM on j-body.org
One of the bands that I consider to still be in the "spirit of punk" is Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds. They sound nothing like punk but it's so nihilistic and screwed up and dark that I can't help but smile.

True story, my neighbour's kids were into AFI and Earth Crisis and all that and they kept saying they loved "f**ked up* music, so I lent them my GG Allin tapes. They returned them an hour later looking all pale and traumatized hehehe.



Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:03 AM on j-body.org
GG's some good stuff too, definitely.



Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:14 AM on j-body.org
The thing I'm going to be interested in is when the Bush administration leaves office. What are all the "bush hating bandwagoneers" gonna sing about after thats done...heh






Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:03 AM on j-body.org
Actually Bush has had it easy compared to Reagan. Every Hardcore band in the 80's had at least one Anti-Reagan anthem. You never really hear overt Anti-Bush songs.

Another thing about Hardcore. When I started this post I talked about "real" punk and people quite rightly pointed out that there's plenty of modern bands that sound punk and they dress like punks and they look like punks. That's true, but it's not the same. Hardcore punk was at it's heart an Anarchist movement held together by music. Most hardcore punker hated their parents, mainstream society, school, rules, laws and life. They just wanted loud music so they could party until they died young. Now that may be a gross oversimplification of the type of person who listened to the music at the time, but you see the difference between someone like that and someone who listens to Good Charlotte or even Green Day. It's not the same. It's just not. Hardcore punk had music and a fashion style surrounding it, but it wasn't clothes and music. It was an idea, usually one of "LET'S TRASH THIS DUMP!!!!" I mean, how many people do you know today who have lasting scars from going to an April Lavigne or Kitty concert? A lot of the venues that used to host hardcore shows were already trashed beforehand because they knew that once the kids came in they'd tear the place apart. So the whole "spraypainted dump" look of punk places didn't come out of wanting to look cool. That's just what the nice clean places looked like after a week. You just don't get that kind of screwed up nihilistic "No Future" atmosphere today.

Although I do think that the whole shallow crap that's passing itself as music today is going to explode once a real band just tears through all the BS. Kids have very sensitive bullsh*t meters but they're not going off now because bands are only interested in getting on MTV and it's just dulling that sense. However, once you get a band that just doesn't give a crap and plays music that speaks to the generation of children left to raise themselves today, you're gonna see a new movement like one that Grunge or Punk or Metal used to be explode onto the scene.




Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:03 PM on j-body.org
I am emperor Ronald Reagan, born again with facist cravings, still you make me president. Human rights will soon go away, i am now your shah today, and I comand all of you, now you're going to pray in school, and i'll make sure they're christians too.



Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:16 PM on j-body.org
Mikedirntrulez wrote:
bradsk88 wrote:
EZ3K1EL wrote:I would hope Rise Against would fall more into the category of punk


They're borderline, I'd almost say more rock than punk. But they're awesome so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt


If you think their CD is good, you should see them live. So much energy



For Me, Pennywise, Morrissey, The Smiths, The Clash, Rancid and to fit the category older rise against.



Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:08 PM on j-body.org
I've got the Pennywise S/T on LP



Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:19 PM on j-body.org
Lanman31337 - Cavfire wrote:I've got the Pennywise S/T on LP

that was amazing




Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:03 PM on j-body.org

Gorilla Biscuits - S/T 7", Rancid - Radio Radio Radio, Operation Ivy - Hectic 7", The Clash - Should I Stay.. B/W Rock the Cashbah


Pennywise S/T and X-Ray Spex - I am a Cliche b/w Oh bondage up yours!



Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:23 PM on j-body.org
wow i havent listened to Gorilla Biscuits is forever. *puts cd in*




Re: Hardcore Punk
Friday, March 23, 2007 4:26 PM on j-body.org
The Clash, Ramones, Misfits, Operation Ivy, Pistols. I love them all, I've been into punk rock for a while. I've been listening to a lot of The Virus, A Global Threat, and The Exploited a lot recently, they're all pretty awesome bands. Also Social Distortion, they've been around for ages and yet they're still amazing. They'd classify as punk right? I'm just asking because I get to see them on April 25th!!!
Re: Hardcore Punk
Friday, March 23, 2007 5:05 PM on j-body.org
I'm sorry but I can't help but chuckle when someone showing the symbol of the ancient and accepted order talking about being a punk.

How can a punk be part of an ancient fraternity? They're kind of.. Anti-each other.


PAX
Re: Hardcore Punk
Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:34 PM on j-body.org
I used to listen to alot more actual "punk than I do now. I do still listen to the suicide machines and Bad religion on an almost daily basis though.

I think I was more into the Ska scene above all else though. I'm still one of the only people I know who listens to the stuff and all my friends think I'm weird for it. Oh well



Re: Hardcore Punk
Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:21 AM on j-body.org
Slammed (1.8 dub) wrote:I used to listen to alot more actual "punk than I do now. I do still listen to the suicide machines and Bad religion on an almost daily basis though.

I think I was more into the Ska scene above all else though. I'm still one of the only people I know who listens to the stuff and all my friends think I'm weird for it. Oh well


@!#$ man i still listen to ska. so do most of my friends. I like Reel Big Fish and streetlight manifesto.


Anybody like the Tossers?


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Re: Hardcore Punk
Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:46 PM on j-body.org
Ska... Sure, it's fun..

Hopping Penquins, One, and The Executives. They were fun when I used to go out to the clubs. I don't anymore, the scene sucks now if you ask me. It's just not like it was a decade ago.

Punk? Sure, but I don't know if there's been and "real" punk since Joey Ramone died. Brown Ploppy, Dead Milkmen, ummm, too many to name... Dead Milkmen are fun.. Kinda hard to call them punk, but if they're not punk then what are they?

Stuart, I like you. You're not like the other kids, here, in the trailer park.


PAX
Re: Hardcore Punk
Friday, March 30, 2007 2:14 PM on j-body.org
kinda neat to see everyeone age just by the music their naming off( for the most part that is) i remember first hearing rancid and trying to decide wether they were true punk or just made up mtv generation. i ended up liking them but for me they were still never quite punk. i think the whole punk scene had more to do with the time rather then the bands. most of what i'd consider true punk bands were never good enough to be on mtv or anything like that. bands like greenday i always felt were just trying to emulate punk wich might not nessicarily have to do with them faking it so to say but more emulating the bands that they grew up listening. listen to a group long enough and you can start picking up the bands that influenced them. one album i'll never forget is who killed bambi. i just thought that was so great. this coming from a guy who grew up in high school being called joey ramone.


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Re: Hardcore Punk
Friday, March 30, 2007 3:08 PM on j-body.org
I like Rancid too, but after seeing this comic, I laugh whenever I listen to an album





Re: Hardcore Punk
Saturday, April 21, 2007 9:45 PM on j-body.org
WannaBzee (aka BadAceDesign) wrote:Green Day is pop punk? In my opinion Green Day is the best punk band to ever exist. 1989-Present, and still going very strong. Meaningful lyrics and an great sound. They have evolved throughout the years, but not lost the soul. Unlike some "punk", like Ramones, Black Flag, etc who have ONE sound, and are dust now.

Also notable mention, two of my top favorite bands who were fabricating the genre since the late seventies, Social Distortion and Bad Religion...


Correction. Green Day used to be punk. Until they didn't realize they were over 40 and didn't care that their music got played on the same station as Gwen Stefani and Pink. I used to like those guys back in the days of Dookie and Basketcase, but their latest album screams sellout/conformity. They were a posterband for MTV just like that rediculously gay band Fallout Boy. Isn't punk all about doing whatever the rest of the world deems not normal? Anti-Flag or Green Day? I'd go with Anti-Flag over Green Day any day of the week.


ShiftyCav wrote:thats probably the dumbest thing i have ever heard. you should take that serpentine belt and wrap it around your neck.

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