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Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:54 AM on j-body.org
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100818/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_cuba_castro_bildenberg

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HAVANA – Fidel Castro is showcasing a theory long popular both among the far left and far right: that the shadowy Bilderberg Group has become a kind of global government, controlling not only international politics and economics, but even culture.

The 84-year-old former Cuban president published an article Wednesday that used three of the only eight pages in the Communist Party newspaper Granma to quote — largely verbatim — from a 2006 book by Lithuanian-born writer Daniel Estulin.

Estulin's work, "The Secrets of the Bilderberg Club," argues that the international group largely runs the world. It has held a secretive annual forum of prominent politicians, thinkers and businessmen since it was founded in 1954 at the Bilderberg Hotel in Holland.

Castro offered no comment on the excerpts other than to describe Estulin as honest and well-informed and to call his book a "fantastic story."

Estulin's book, as quoted by Castro, described "sinister cliques and the Bilderberg lobbyists" manipulating the public "to install a world government that knows no borders and is not accountable to anyone but its own self."

The Bilderberg group's website says its members have "nearly three days of informal and off-the-record discussion about topics of current concern" once a year, but the group does nothing else.

It said the meetings were meant to encourage people to work together on major policy issues.

The prominence of the group is what alarms critics. It often includes members of the Rockefeller family, Henry Kissinger, senior U.S. and European officials and major international business and media executives.

The excerpt published by Castro suggested that the esoteric Frankfurt School of socialist academics worked with members of the Rockefeller family in the 1950s to pave the way for rock music to "control the masses" by diverting attention from civil rights and social injustice.

"The man charged with ensuring that the Americans liked the Beatles was Walter Lippmann himself," the excerpt asserted, referring to a political philosopher and by-then-staid newspaper columnist who died in 1974.

"In the United States and Europe, great open-air rock concerts were used to halt the growing discontent of the population," the excerpt said.

Castro — who had an inside seat to the Cold War — has long expressed suspicions of back-room plots. He has raised questions about whether the Sept. 11 attacks were orchestrated by the U.S. government to stoke military budgets and, more recently suggested that Washington was behind the March sinking of a South Korean ship blamed on North Korea.

Estulin's own website suggests that the 9/11 attacks were likely caused by small nuclear devices, and that the CIA and drug traffickers were behind the 1988 downing of a jetliner over Lockerbie, Scotland, that was blamed on Libya.

The Bilderberg conspiracy theory has been popular on both extremes of the ideological spectrum, even if they disagree on just what the group wants to do. Leftists accuse the group of promoting capitalist domination, while some right-wing websites argue that the Bilderberg club has imposed Barack Obama on the United States to advance socialism.

Some of Estulin's work builds on reports by Big Jim Tucker, a researcher on the Bilderberg Group who publishes on right-wing websites.

"It's great Hollywood material ... 15 people sitting in a room sitting in a room determining the fate of mankind," said Herbert London, president of the Hudson Institute, a nonpartisan policy think tank in New York.

"As someone who doesn't come out of the Oliver Stone school of conspiracy, I have a hard time believing it," London added.

A call to a Virginia number for the American Friends of Bilderberg rang unanswered Wednesday and the group's website lists no contact numbers.

Castro, who underwent emergency intestinal surgery in July 2006 and stepped down as president in February 2008, has suddenly begun popping up everywhere recently, addressing Cuba's parliament on the threat of a nuclear war, meeting with island ambassadors at the Foreign Ministry, writing a book and even attending the dolphin show at the Havana aquarium.


Just thought it was an interesting read.




Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:41 AM on j-body.org
What?!? Castro doesn't like the US? I don't believe it...

Oh yeah:
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The excerpt published by Castro suggested that the esoteric Frankfurt School of socialist academics worked with members of the Rockefeller family in the 1950s to pave the way for rock music to "control the masses" by diverting attention from civil rights and social injustice.

"The man charged with ensuring that the Americans liked the Beatles was Walter Lippmann himself," the excerpt asserted, referring to a political philosopher and by-then-staid newspaper columnist who died in 1974.

"In the United States and Europe, great open-air rock concerts were used to halt the growing discontent of the population," the excerpt said.
I think someone missed the anti-government, anti-establishment message that's been prevalent in rock music since its inception...




fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:47 AM on j-body.org
Nah man, that's what you to think rock is all about! They're all just actors man!



Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:23 PM on j-body.org
I'm so sick of conspiracies. Some are true some are whack bottom line you will never know the truth, this is why it's a conspiracy.




Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:11 PM on j-body.org
Hey people have been telling me i look like him when my beard gets full and thicker so thanks guys and i know not everything is conspiracy but there are conspiracies that exist .

I told you idiots time and time again i don't hate america just the government and the brainwashed people known as sheeple , the other half that know what the @!#$ is going on in that country and across the world and don't remain ignorant on issues get my respect .

The only reason you people like to deny everything is cause it scares the crap out of you whether it be a conspiracy or not you deny that bad things are going on in the world and try to pretend like they don't exist just so you can @!#$ sleep at night .

Again get your facts straight you idiots instead of making your self look like cowards . America will collapse in a few years anyways .

You guys if you got to know someone personally and didn't bash them and call them crazy you might learn something from them and realize they ain't so crazy after all but you judge to quickly , for all i know you guys could be crazy yourselves just online you act mature as to not give it away . See i may sound crazy and paranoid online but in real life i'm quite normal actually just a different mindset and thinking pattern is all .

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Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved Acts 16:31

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
" Mark Twain "
Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:24 PM on j-body.org
This reminds me of teasing that ill-tempered dog back in the old neighborhood, just to watch it growl and bark and slaver, jumping at the fence until it was too tired to continue.

Ah, good times





Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:31 PM on j-body.org
^^^^ Don't you have kids or grand kids dude go raise them before they grow up to be retarded like you .

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved Acts 16:31

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
" Mark Twain "
Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:32 PM on j-body.org
John H wrote:The only reason you people like to deny everything is cause it scares the crap out of you whether it be a conspiracy or not you deny that bad things are going on in the world and try to pretend like they don't exist just so you can @!#$ sleep at night .
I sleep well at night because I know how to research the claims made by people such as yourself. Some theories are disconcerting at the least, but most are built on a foundation of horse @!#$. And it doesn't take much effort to figure out which fit into which category.




fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:45 PM on j-body.org
John H wrote:^^^^ Don't you have kids or grand kids dude go raise them before they grow up to be retarded like you .
LOL. From what I've seen, they passed him in maturity a while ago.

John, you really need to chill out. Your conspiracy rantings and "everyone is a blind idiot" routine is just making you look like a jackass. Hence this thread.
If you want anything you post to be receive with anything more than laughter, tone it down a bit.







Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:27 PM on j-body.org
R.W.E. of the J.B.O. wrote:
John H wrote:^^^^ Don't you have kids or grand kids dude go raise them before they grow up to be retarded like you .
LOL. From what I've seen, they passed him in maturity a while ago.

John, you really need to chill out. Your conspiracy rantings and "everyone is a blind idiot" routine is just making you look like a jackass. Hence this thread.
If you want anything you post to be receive with anything more than laughter, tone it down a bit.



I know and i understand and to ohv notec i totally agree with you .

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved Acts 16:31

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
" Mark Twain "
Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:30 PM on j-body.org
He he....

I mostly just made this thread to poke fun and see if you'd go into another tirade. However, I found something the other day that irked me a bit and I'm sure you'll lap this up.

Minority report anyone?

It starts under the false pretense of security, and before you know it it's full-on big brother and there is zero privacy. I'm not sure if this crap will ever come to America. I'm sure certain people in government would LOVE for there to be another attack just so they can implement this kind of thing (Patriot act version 2?), and of course we'll eat it up saying "I think it's acceptable to give up a little freedom for safety".



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Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:37 PM on j-body.org
ThatGuy85 wrote:He he....

I mostly just made this thread to poke fun and see if you'd go into another tirade. However, I found something the other day that irked me a bit and I'm sure you'll lap this up.

Minority report anyone?

It starts under the false pretense of security, and before you know it it's full-on big brother and there is zero privacy. I'm not sure if this crap will ever come to America. I'm sure certain people in government would LOVE for there to be another attack just so they can implement this kind of thing, and of course we'll eat it up saying "I think it's acceptable to give up a little freedom for safety".



Europe is already a police state with all the cctv cameras and guns and knives are illegal over there . Its what i read though so who knows if it is true .

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved Acts 16:31

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
" Mark Twain "
Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:48 PM on j-body.org
ThatGuy85 wrote:and of course we'll eat it up saying "I think it's acceptable to give up a little freedom for safety".
Read my sig.






Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:24 PM on j-body.org
R.W.E. of the J.B.O. wrote:
ThatGuy85 wrote:and of course we'll eat it up saying "I think it's acceptable to give up a little freedom for safety".
Read my sig.




Benjamin Franklin said it best : They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved Acts 16:31

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
" Mark Twain "
Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Friday, August 20, 2010 6:59 AM on j-body.org
John H wrote:Hey people have been telling me i look like him when my beard gets full and thicker so thanks guys and i know not everything is conspiracy but there are conspiracies that exist .

I told you idiots time and time again i don't hate america just the government and the brainwashed people known as sheeple , the other half that know what the @!#$ is going on in that country and across the world and don't remain ignorant on issues get my respect .

The only reason you people like to deny everything is cause it scares the crap out of you whether it be a conspiracy or not you deny that bad things are going on in the world and try to pretend like they don't exist just so you can @!#$ sleep at night .

Again get your facts straight you idiots instead of making your self look like cowards . America will collapse in a few years anyways .

You guys if you got to know someone personally and didn't bash them and call them crazy you might learn something from them and realize they ain't so crazy after all but you judge to quickly , for all i know you guys could be crazy yourselves just online you act mature as to not give it away . See i may sound crazy and paranoid online but in real life i'm quite normal actually just a different mindset and thinking pattern is all .


I'm more than willing at almost anytime to listen to someones argument. For example in your past thread with the fluoride, once someone brings up anything against your conspiracy you dodge the rebuttal they give you or spin around in circles repeating the same information and then jumping down each persons throat. If you expect others to be open minded to your conspiracies you need to remain open minded to their opinions against your conspiracies.




Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Friday, August 20, 2010 8:33 AM on j-body.org
ThatGuy85 wrote:He he....

I mostly just made this thread to poke fun and see if you'd go into another tirade.

Yep. We used to poke at the mean, stupid dog in groups...it was way more fun that way!





Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Friday, August 20, 2010 12:56 PM on j-body.org
I drive a silver car wrote:
John H wrote:Hey people have been telling me i look like him when my beard gets full and thicker so thanks guys and i know not everything is conspiracy but there are conspiracies that exist .

I told you idiots time and time again i don't hate america just the government and the brainwashed people known as sheeple , the other half that know what the @!#$ is going on in that country and across the world and don't remain ignorant on issues get my respect .

The only reason you people like to deny everything is cause it scares the crap out of you whether it be a conspiracy or not you deny that bad things are going on in the world and try to pretend like they don't exist just so you can @!#$ sleep at night .

Again get your facts straight you idiots instead of making your self look like cowards . America will collapse in a few years anyways .

You guys if you got to know someone personally and didn't bash them and call them crazy you might learn something from them and realize they ain't so crazy after all but you judge to quickly , for all i know you guys could be crazy yourselves just online you act mature as to not give it away . See i may sound crazy and paranoid online but in real life i'm quite normal actually just a different mindset and thinking pattern is all .


I'm more than willing at almost anytime to listen to someones argument. For example in your past thread with the fluoride, once someone brings up anything against your conspiracy you dodge the rebuttal they give you or spin around in circles repeating the same information and then jumping down each persons throat. If you expect others to be open minded to your conspiracies you need to remain open minded to their opinions against your conspiracies.




Well when people call you crazy it's kinda hard getting a point across , plus this isn't a conspiracy site even though alot of the topics in the war forum get talked about on them .

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Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved Acts 16:31

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
" Mark Twain "
Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Saturday, August 21, 2010 7:33 AM on j-body.org
John H wrote:Benjamin Franklin said it best : They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
That's another good one, but I always liked Pitt's better. It applies to far more than just security.






Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:23 AM on j-body.org
Hmm. Just noticed this in John H.'s post above:

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This could explain a lot about the paranoia...





Re: Holy @!#$! John H is actually CASTRO!
Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:04 AM on j-body.org
Take Back the Republican Party wrote:Hmm. Just noticed this in John H.'s post above:

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This could explain a lot about the paranoia...



haha no i don't smoke it and to me it shows 1:20 pm but i am in canada so yea

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved Acts 16:31

Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.
" Mark Twain "
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