97turbojbody wrote:Evolution definitely contradicts religion. It contradicts the Bible. It has not been proven because all the proof given were just scientific theories all coming from one idea. Theories aren't neccessarily facts and there definitely is insufficient proof.
whoa whoa there turbo. EVOLUTION is a FACT. it is PROVEN. if we are talking strictly HUMAN evolution that is not fact, but pretty close to it.
evolution as a process of life, is a hardcore fact ie undisputable and proven.
before YOU comment on anything YOU should get some basic knowledge of organic life.
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Oh and please watch the first 4 video links i posted unless you are affraid to be proved wrong or have insufficient knowledge to fight for your beliefs. So many things like the age of the earth and the cabon dating accuracy is all proven to be wrong. If you want to see how, look at video 1 or click this link (unless you are scared). http://www.blueletterbible.org/audio_video/hovind_kent/creation/creation_1.ram
I can tell if you watched the video or not by your remarks and comments. cuz everything i want to say is already talked about in video 1 and it will just take too much to write. If you don't want to see the video it is your choice, but i said if you want to comment on my post you would have to watch the videos first. if not all at least the first 4.
okie doke my buddy. let me go topic by topic in this mans video.
1. he says evolution has 0 scientific evidence. he says it is a theory/religion/philosophy
first of all evolution is not a theory it is fact. evolution happens it is the WAY it happens that is slightly less direct. there are two theories for HOW it happens one is through darwins natural selection or through the mendelian heredity theory. evolution as a process is not questioned, only the WAY evolution happens.
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In biology, evolution is the change in the heritable traits of a population over successive generations, as determined by shifts in the allele frequencies of genes. Over time, this process can result in speciation, the development of new species from existing ones.
in te simplest terms i can relate to you, everytime a child is born it is taking part in evolution. the color of your hair, dimple chin, blood type, disease, etc... are determined by the mixing of alleles between the dna of your mother and father.
this HAPPENS. it is fact. now the theory part is how. darwin says that this process of change in heritable traits when looked at over hundreds, thousands, milliosn of years would evolve a specie into a stronger specie through what is called natural selection. natural selection is that a bloodline from a child who gets the genetic traits to have sickle cell anemia will die eventually die off, because in most environments havign sickle cell anemia will make you weak. so the bloodlines with a high frequency of this trait/disease dies off and the bloodlines who dont survive. effectively making the specie as a whole stronger now that that weak trait has been evolved out.
when you look in the mirror, you have say brown hair and blue eyes and freckles because of the overall process of evolution.
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now he is saying that if you believe in evolution you are nothing. your a piece of protoplasm that happend to show up on earth.
then he says if evolution is true, there is no purpose to life.
then if evolution is true when you die, your goign ot a grave to do nothing but get recycled into a plant.
then he says evolution as an idea started with satan and the garden of eden.
now he is saying that in 15 years of teachign high school science there is not much intelligent life on this planet.
then he quotes from isaah 14:13 which is apparently the exact words from satan himself.(if the bible is the infallible inerrant word of god as so he says, why does it then have passages that are directs words from the devil himself?)
then he is describing in-depth how to get peopel to believe a lie (hmm interesting)
now descriminating on rednecks
--- for putting so much emphasis on peopel being open minded while watching the seminar he seems AWFULLY closed minded doesnt he?
EVOLUTION:
organic evolution: life starting from non living material- he says no one has a clue how that could happen
macro evolution: (his definition) when one kidn changes into another kind
he mentions that no one has ever seen a dog produce a non dog. is he insane? the process of one kind of life turnign into another could never be visible in a human life span. even in hundreds of human life span. it is an extremely slow process.
he says that dogs have a common ancsestor which would be either a coyote, wolf and he missed one which would eb the jackal. but says that common dogs are not evolutions of those they are simply variations.
does he honestly mean to say that a weiner dog is a variation of w coyote or wolf? that ludacrous and absolutely wrong. variation would be slight size color and shape differences. not completely different animal. that is small scaled evolution but in the case of dogs it is human powered selective evolution.
im actually getting EXTREMELY sick of this video it is so chock full innacurate slander and BS its not even funny.
he is now agreeing with the science of the first law of thermodynamics.
no matter can be created or destroyed.
then says there are two choices:
1. somebody made the world
2. the world made itself
he is now going on to laughably explain how fairytaleish the big bang theory is that the universe started from a singularity/dot/near nothingness
how is this ANY different than god creating everything from nothign and god being, being always and infitely forever? how is that ANY different?
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this is going to be the last part i disect because it only takes COMMON sense to expose all of the falasies in his talk.
he believes the earth BEGAN, the ENTIRE earth began 6,000 years ago.
this means EARTH itself began about 4,000 bce
there is proven science that dates a granery back to 9500bce. a granery is a structure to store and product food.
then he goes on to completely innacurately and entirely skip certain parts of the second law of thermo dynamics. why? because it would make his points moot.
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anyways i am done with that bullcrap. noen of what I said controdicts God or religion. it is simply the way it is.
god could have very well been the starting force of the big bang 20 billion years ago. God could have very well designed organic life with the ability to evolve from amoeba into humans or sharks or bears over billions of years.
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if you would like me to educate you on any aspect of his talks please point out a topic and where in the video and i can show you indepth evidence on it. seriously man, i dont care what you believe in. but damn, how can you believe in something that places the beginning of the entire earth AFTER when proven buildings date back to. think carbon dating is innacurate? tell me how and i can explain to you in depth how carbon dating works and how it is accurate. it is totally accurate up to 50,000 years old and on anything that used carbon from the air ie plants animals etc...
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what is this, the Inquisition? when has a scientist "disappeared"? Part of science is discovering new ideas and it isn't a catastrophie is a theory is modified or even disproved... it is progression. There is plenty of scientific law that has remained the same since Aristotle!
