I guess I did not mention them specifically, however my post did include everyone and everything. If you are gay, bi, straight, Jewish, catholic, black, white, no matter what separates you from other so-called groups, there is no right by anyone seclude. Differentiation is fine so long as it does not turn to discrimination.
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ok whose responsible for this?
Myles wrote:gay men = get the @!#$ out of my country and go live on the sun you @!#$in fags
gay women = depends if they are good looking or not 
you may have an opinion but its ignorant
i have several gay friends i have no problem with them at all... most of them are male... and i support gay marriage whether the couple is male or female...
eztrip wrote:airy construction worker guys butt VS my Girlfriends fine smooth hairless sexy butt in wraped in silky smooth panties.... no contest there , hairy guy;s @ss wins !! .. yeah right ....
... " barfs "
to each his/her own ..
actually most gay men are very *ahem tidy... considering that is well... the "business end" for them...
Alexis wrote:Machzel08 (Teh Jew) wrote:EVERYONE is gay, it's jsut to what extent.
to the guy's bashing gays: ever watch porno?(assuming yes) only watch a woman and a woman together?(assuming no) do you like to see a girl get railed by a guy with a 2 inch flacid penis or a huge throbbing cock? (see 
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Machzel08 (Teh Jew) wrote:EVERYONE is gay, it's jsut to what extent.
to the guy's bashing gays: ever watch porno?(assuming yes) only watch a woman and a woman together?(assuming no) do you like to see a girl get railed by a guy with a 2 inch flacid penis or a huge throbbing cock? (see )
I disagree. I am 100% not gay. I don't even like to see a penis in my porn at all - not even a penis in a woman(aside from my own lol), big or small I dislike them and the very site makes me loose my own hard-on. It's not being homo-phobic or anything, but dicks are gross. I like porn with either one woman, 2 women, 3 women, 4 women, 5 women, or 50+ women. You get the picture
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I guess I'm like the saying - "Lesbian trapped in a man's body."
Alexis wrote:As a side note, I think it's rather harsh to call me a freak because I like to munch carpet on ocassion.
I think you're a freak if you don't record it and share(wink)(wink)
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I've never heard of this "part throttle" before. Does it just bolt on?
GAM: if you're good i'll try to cast you in the sizzybit porn. if you're bad, i'll cast you in the hot-n-steamy lovescene with the T-Rex (watch Orgasmo).
Agustin: Bisexuals, IMHO, want the best of both world--and God bless them too
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I think y'all are arguing over semantics. Homosexuality is, by definition, abnormal. I think that is what the original poster is TRYING to say. Are homosexuals freaks? Well, if nature didn't intend for them to be gay, then yes. I happen to believe that if nature intended for them to be strait they would be, but how do I know that it wasn't some sort of mix up? I don't and neither does anyone else. Why don't we stop analyzing something that we really know little about and just accept homosexuals as brothas and sistas?
What do we have to gain by labeling them any further?
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^^^the only thing to be gained is the demonizing of something different so that the people doing the demonizing can clain some moral or personal high ground to convince themselves that they are for some reason better.
In other words, gay bashers bash gays because, IMHO, they need to make themselves feel better than someone else in order to feel good about themselves since they can't feel good about themselves on their own.
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BigJ: there is no such thing as abnormal when talking about human sexuality. I'm sorry, but there just is not. There's what is popular, and there are deviations, and then there are perversions. Homosexuality is not a perversion: because no one is hurt or violated in the act (assuming all is consensual). If you enjoy oral sex, that's a deviation, if you enjoy oral sex from children: that's a perversion.
I agree with Keeper's idea because I see a polite-type of division happening: you can't descriminate because of Race, colour (they are different, you can be TOO black/white etc), religion, creed, gender, physical affliction (dependant) or sexual preference (at least in Canada), but it doesn't mean you have to help or offer to them either. People seem to need to be divided, while an individual can reason on their own... Really, what does <insert characteristic> REALLY matter?
Keeper: I'll have to rent orgasmo then
Agustin: I share the sentiment with Keeper, but I think bi-sexuals are just selfish. More power to them either way
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Well, I think it's one of the better Trey Parker and Matt Stone pieces--right up there with Cannibal--the Musical.
Gotta love a spoof on the porn industry
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I dig that
I wasn't framing my response as though it were an attack. But using a word like abberation has less of a negative connotation than abnormal.
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Cool, I just hate how PC people are now. I really don't care who is offended by my statements if the are correct. That's why I chose the word "abnormal", people often see it as a negative even though it isn't in every case. BTW; Thank you for the "word of the day".
It doesn't seem less offensive to me. Here is one of the definitions: "a twist or aberration; especially a perverse or abnormal way of judging or acting"
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It's usually a good idea to couch your ideas in a perspective that will help convey the right message. Part of it necessitates picking words carefully... I understand that being PC is a real bane to most people because it hinders the process of exchanging frank ideas, but, acting with a little decorum and framing your opinions in a way that will be unambiguous but also untainted by innuendos or connotations will put the velvet glove over the iron fist, as it were.
Basically, I'm trying to say: don't let the audience find fault with how you say something when they should be focusing on what you're saying.
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Very well said, you right. Thanks for the input.
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I jumped on this banwagon a little late but I think your all missing the origional posters point from the begining.
At least I hope he knows that many other animals display homosexual behavior. As another poster anotated from a wikipeia link, which is usually a completely stupid link because wikipedia doesnt get its own definitions it allows other people to post their own opinions as definitions. But anyway the origional poster is 100% right and there really is no arguing it.
Other animals that show homosexual behavior take place between males 99% of the time. It involves a male animal, lets name then as "XXX-male" for whatever reason you take it as. XXX-male has the natural gene to do WHATEVER possible to pass on his gene. If he gets the chance to hump somthing, the your damn willing to bet he is going to try. So long as it is during the common mating season. Where BTW he is as horny as a human male who has watched porn for a whole year and not got off once.
So basically what I am saying is that I dont actually thing homosexuality is against human nature because its not. Homosexuality is natural when a guy is just "unconciously" thinking about "passing on his gene's". But is choosing homosexuality for life wrong? @!#$ YES IT IS. In no way has and tiger, black bear, or any other animal listed on that douchbag-o-pedia (wikipedia) link chose homosexuality for life and never tired to mate with the oppostite sex in its species.
As many of us men know, our sexual drive has probably lost us a few women in our days. When you get to wrapped up in the sex drive women turn away, natural seletion at its worst. But some men are truely to involved in thier sexual desire to go after another woman, hence the reason they turn to another man who has nearly the same sexual desire. Sometimes this desire probably causes two men to stay together because the sexual desire keeps them together. But in no way does sexual desire mean somthing is right.
Only a man and a woman can reproduce. They can have sexual desire, but the woman must stop being such a demanding bitch (J.K. really). But it really is no where near natural for two people of the same sex to ever get attached. The sexual reproduction drive SHOULD cause any homosexual to turn straight for reproduction purposes. If not then they really are "freaks of nature". There really isn't any possible way to argue that. You can say what you want, male/female... sperm/egg type sex is truly what nature inteneded. If nature inteneded homosexuality why is there sprem in every mans seman? Obviously its meant to fertilize and egg, which nearly evey woman produces. certain things are just meant to be and certain things arn't.
IF GOD MEANT FOR SOME MEN AND SOME WOMEN TO BE HOMOSEXUAL, HE WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN THEM SPERM OR EGG, THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE SPREM OR EGG GIVES THEM THE ABILITY TO REPRODUCE AND MEANS THAT THEY HAVE SEXUAL ORGANS AND CHROMOSOMES THAT ARE MEANT TO REPRODUCE. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. IF HOMOSEXUALS WERE BORN WITH SOME KIND OF HOMOSEXUAL GENE, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE SPERM OR EGG, SPERM OR EGG MEANS THEY ARE MEANT TO REPRODUCE; THERFORE, ANYONE THAT CAN PRODUCE FERTILE SPERM OR EGG AND DECIDES TO BE HOMOSEXUAL TRUELY IS A FEAK OF NATURE. IT IS SIMPLY UNDENIABLE.
RRC:
First, you're incorrect in the last statement because then there would be 3 sexes, not 2. Homosexuality is not in the loins, it's in the brain. If things were as you say, why would there be female homosexuals, and why could a homosexual female and a homosexual male mate and produce a child that was heterosexual? (I'm talking either through intercourse or artificial insemination and implantation)
Second, Wikipedia is just as viable as the Ćncyclopaedia Britannica because there are file references at the bottom of pages that do not contain original research. The "REFERENCES" sections for scientific based entries are usually well researched, and have updated information. Don't discount it because it's free and open to the public to write, re-write and edit: there are editors, and they check what is provable.
Third, The animals listed on the site are fully capable of passing on their genes, but some display homosexual behaviour for social reasons (I believe it's spider monkeys that have a heterosexual male perform homosexual acts to placate 2 feuding alpha males and establish dominance, I believe it's the same for gorillas, but I may be wrong). Compound this with the alteration of organic homosexuals' brain chemistry, and you'll find that either way you look at the Nature/Choice issue, it's not as simple as what you have outlined.
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GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:RRC:
First, you're incorrect in the last statement because then there would be 3 sexes, not 2. Homosexuality is not in the loins, it's in the brain. If things were as you say, why would there be female homosexuals, and why could a homosexual female and a homosexual male mate and produce a child that was heterosexual? (I'm talking either through intercourse or artificial insemination and implantation)
Third, The animals listed on the site are fully capable of passing on their genes, but some display homosexual behaviour for social reasons (I believe it's spider monkeys that have a heterosexual male perform homosexual acts to placate 2 feuding alpha males and establish dominance, I believe it's the same for gorillas, but I may be wrong). Compound this with the alteration of organic homosexuals' brain chemistry, and you'll find that either way you look at the Nature/Choice issue, it's not as simple as what you have outlined.
Yeah, homosexuals really should be considered a 3rd sex. Becasue being a man means you have sperm, sperm's sole purpose is to fertilize and egg. Which is found in females only. Which means every persons body was designed to be used in sexual reproduction. And you didnt see the point I was making obviously. It wasnt about whether homosexuality is right or wrong (I think it is completely wrong) but rather about the fact that any animal that is designed with a reproductive part is meant to reproduce. Therefore meaning that they are supose to reproduce. Obviously makeing them heterosexual.
Your reference to Spider Monkeys is actually exactly what I am saying. Yes it does happen in nature. But does that animal that uses homosexual acts keep to pleasing other monkeys of the same sex and never try to reproduce. No, in your case above they may actually be doing homosexual acts to gain rank for the purpose of winning a female to mate with. I am in no way saying that homosexual ACTS are against nature, but 100% homosexuality where they never want to seek heterosexual relations is against nature.
If they can still function the same as any other of that sex, then why introduce a layer of confusion? Homosexuals are capable of reproducing like any other mammal. If you're going to go to that extreme, then lump in people that are incapable of having sex for whatever reason, and people that choose to abstain from intercourse.
I think that at this point you have to know that it may be against nature in your opinion (I seem to think it's been happening for several million years, and no ill effect in the populace of any kingdom) but it happens because of nature... behaviour isn't against nature, you live and are part of it so I don't see your point of view. Homosexual humans, mammals in general etc, are not homosexual by choice (spider monkeys are generally considered to be bi-sexual) but are so by nature.
http://bespin.stwing.upenn.edu/~upsych/Perspectives/1998/franklin1.html
http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/060224_gay_genes.html
http://www.pathmed.com/p/78,346.html
It's not light reading, but it's a start.
There's a lot of issues clouding the real one: Choice or Chance? A lot of gay people say choice, a lot of scientists say chance... either way, saying it's against nature, when it's fairly common across mammalian and insect phylum (well, really the Animalia Kingdom in general) is unfounded.
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Yes animals may exhibit forms of homosexuality thats true. But you stick a FEMALE thats in season in front of them and WHAM! They're STRAIGHT! Those little gay penguins in I believe it was the New York zoo, what happened when they introduced a new female into the fold? TA DA! The gay penguins were no longer gay! It was devistateing to the gay community as it shot down thier biggest example of gay animals.
And to say gay dog is plain silly! Dogs hump anything that moves! And sometimes it doesn't even have to move to get humped! Also female dogs will hump too, its a sign of dominance more then sexual.
Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.
I hate to rain on your parade, Jack, but that info is not totally correct... They didn't just turn straight, they were curious about the new ones... the ones that were homosexual before went right back after investigating.
http://www.nhm.uio.no/againstnature/index.html
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Many social animals have complex social systems where individuals seek out allies for help and protection. Sex is an important way of strengthening the alliance, also between animals of the same sex. In some animals the whole species is bisexual, and homosexual relationships are prerequisites for joining a pack, making strict heterosexuality a disadvantage.
Many of the species where homosexuality is registered are just such intelligent social animals with complex hierarchies, like wolves, lions, whales and primates.
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GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:I hate to rain on your parade, Jack, but that info is not totally correct... They didn't just turn straight, they were curious about the new ones... the ones that were homosexual before went right back after investigating.
Many of the species where homosexuality is registered are just such intelligent social animals with complex hierarchies, like wolves, lions, whales and primates.
Never ever heard of gay wolves! LOL! I need some proof of that one. wolves are very much like dogs in the fact they will hump anything but that doesn't make them gay, sorry. Like I said stick a female in season in front of them and they will happily hump her till they can't hump no more. Gay wolves! LOL! thats like saying gay dogs! LOL! Sorry no such thing. Give them a female in heat and watch what happens. NO MORE GAY!
As for the gay penguins in New York I remember the one leaving the other for the new female AND they had a baby together. Thats the last I heard of them cause it doesn't further the gay is normal argument the news media is trying to force on us all.
Look I don't care if someone wants to be gay! More power to em! Its GOT to be hard as hell so its not like they're doing it for laughs but for the LOVE of God STOP trying to cram it down our throats that its perfectly normal! Got news ITS NOT! but if it makes you happy to do it then HAVE FUN! Just don't expect ME to join in. The gay community wants to be excepted as normal then I say FINE no problem! But I don't try to force my straight ideals on them so they NEED to STOP trying to force thier gay ideals on me.
Its the reason why the Ellen show failed and the Will and Grace show did so good! The difference is subtle but its there.
Now that Ellen its doing the "I"M GAY" it on her new show its doing great! We know your gay! Big fat hairy deal! She stopped craming it down our throats and she's back to doing great! Now if we could only get Rosie to STFU about pushing the gay crap all the time then maaaaybe she'll be funny again too.
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Jackalope wrote:GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:I hate to rain on your parade, Jack, but that info is not totally correct... They didn't just turn straight, they were curious about the new ones... the ones that were homosexual before went right back after investigating.
Many of the species where homosexuality is registered are just such intelligent social animals with complex hierarchies, like wolves, lions, whales and primates.
Never ever heard of gay wolves! LOL! I need some proof of that one. wolves are very much like dogs in the fact they will hump anything but that doesn't make them gay, sorry. Like I said stick a female in season in front of them and they will happily hump her till they can't hump no more. Gay wolves! LOL! thats like saying gay dogs! LOL! Sorry no such thing. Give them a female in heat and watch what happens. NO MORE GAY!
As for the gay penguins in New York I remember the one leaving the other for the new female AND they had a baby together. Thats the last I heard of them cause it doesn't further the gay is normal argument the news media is trying to force on us all.
Look I don't care if someone wants to be gay! More power to em! Its GOT to be hard as hell so its not like they're doing it for laughs but for the LOVE of God STOP trying to cram it down our throats that its perfectly normal! Got news ITS NOT! but if it makes you happy to do it then HAVE FUN! Just don't expect ME to join in. The gay community wants to be excepted as normal then I say FINE no problem! But I don't try to force my straight ideals on them so they NEED to STOP trying to force thier gay ideals on me.
Its the reason why the Ellen show failed and the Will and Grace show did so good! The difference is subtle but its there.
Now that Ellen its doing the "I"M GAY" it on her new show its doing great! We know your gay! Big fat hairy deal! She stopped craming it down our throats and she's back to doing great! Now if we could only get Rosie to STFU about pushing the gay crap all the time then maaaaybe she'll be funny again too.
I agree with most of what your saying. GAM said above "what abaout those that cant reproduce?" well dude, your proving our point. That is a against natures norm. It does happen so it is considered nature when someone cant reproduce, but its also way against the normal because they probably still have testicles. Which means they are suppose to reproduce but somehow got screwed in the gene pole. Maybe Homosexuality is genetics, doubt it but, but if it is it just shows that they are against nature because they have sprem and are meant to reporduce. Its thier choice if they want to be gay, just like its a priests choice to abstain from sex, but its still against nature because they have the sprem or egg meant to reproduce.
But jackalope, I think your off a little in saying that they are trying to force you into thier ways. I truely believe that a lot of gay people that are out in society protesting anti gay ideas are just doing so for attention. Seriously what would happen if we gave gays all of the rights that they wish to have and eveyone treats them exactly like they want to be treated. The next thing they would be doing is protesting nude in public laws and other indecency laws. They really are looking for attention and when you basically yell at them and tell them they need to stop trying to force thier ideas on you, its exactly what they want. Just like anti-gay's will protest, they just want to attention, even if it isnt going to do them any good. People just dont know how to stick to themselves and leave others alone, and we cant change that, but the worst thing you can do is complain about it to other people, unless they have the exact same ideas as you on the issue.
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Now Jack, even though you have a REALLY gorgeous ass, no one wants to force you into being gay.
Part of the Tolerance thing is accepting that they're there, and that you don't have to do anything about it but just accept that they have the right to live and be left alone to do as they like, just like anyone. You don't have to be gay, just be yourself. If you hear a flamer telling you otherwise, laugh in his face.
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I'd like for any of you to tell me how Gays are forcing their values on you.
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